How Can I Expose A Liar Claiming To Be In The Medical Field?
There’s this kid at my work that lies about becoming a nurse practitioner… he goes around spewing his false medical knowledge and correcting people on a constant basis. When you confront him about his “facts” he throws false credentials in your face like “i have years of medical school under my belt, i think i would know…” He’s only 22 and has a serious ego problem.
Anybody with knowledge and experience about the nursing program or med school that can help me expose him.
Speak to him and if he doesn’t listen to you then tell someone else whom you trust that would also be have the knowledge in the medical field and tell them. If they speak to him ask that two witnesses be present so that he can be held accountable.
If he continues on this way then take it to the hospital head and let him deal with it. Usually that’s a good way to deal with a person who should be dealt with by a higher authority.
You are giving him 3 chances to do the right thing. People also deserve chances I think because they may not be aware that they are doing something wrong.
If you feel comfortable confronting this person then I would do it or go to the next step if necessary. Confrontation can be done differently but we should always give people a chance I believe because people should be given chances to own up to their faults.
The method that I use is usually in a church setting or in non church setting mainly because it’s helped me and it’s helped others.
Either way you decide how to deal with this person it’s really your choice.
If he is only 22, the ONLY medical experience he could have “under his belt” might be some pre-med college courses. If this *** isn’t actually working in the medical field, then he can’t do any harm to patients. If I were you, I would just ignore him, and maybe he will shut-up and go away. If he IS working in a profession where he is caring for patients, you might try to find out what college he (allegedly) graduated from. You might have some luck on the school’s alumni site as far as learning what degree (if any) he has. If he is lying about his credentials then you should notify his immediate superior at once.
What you have described may indicate a narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM) IV, diagnostic criteria include
1. An exaggerated sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
2. Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. Believes he is “special” and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
4. Requires excessive admiration
5. Has a sense of entitlement
6. Selfishly takes advantage of others to achieve his own ends
7. Lacks empathy
8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him
9. Shows arrogant, haughty, patronizing, or contemptuous behaviors or attitudes.
Leave the kid alone, unless he starts giving medical advice. A reminder that practicing medicine without a license is a felony in every state (usually resulting in serious jail time) might work. On the other hand, the kid is going to hang himself sooner or later.
If you pay attention to his disorder – even negative attention – it is likely to reinforce the disorder. The worst thing possible for someone with NPD is to be ignored. If enough people ignore him maybe he’ll get a job somewhere else where he can claim to be a nuclear physicist with a couple of atomic weapons in his closet at home, or maybe a secret Cardinal of the Roman Catholic Church, or an alien from Mars.
Good luck.
Ask him where he went to school and if they served cookies and had nap time there!
Why expose him? It won’t help you. And it may harm his ego. Let it go.
Ok. So the kid thinks he is Doogie Hawser, or just watched him too much as a kid.
Ask him where he went to school and what year he graduated. Get a year book from that school for that year. Bingo
I used to work with a woman just like that except she lied about every subject. Somebody mentioned skiing so she claimed to be a world class skier. Somebody mentioned karate so she was a tenth degree black belt. Somebody talks about horse racing and she claimed to be raising world class race horses. God knows how many degrees she supposedly had. Thankfully she finally got fired for not doing her job. We saw her later flipping burgers at hamburger joint no doubt telling them the same crap.
Have more patience, eventually the truth will come out, & he
will hang himself. He will inevitablly slip-up an cause himself so much humililation, that he will just vanish into thin air. A 22 year
old is far from being an expert in the medical world.
Well, let’s see. He’s 22, right? Unless he’s a child progidy who entered college early, I highly doubt he’s currently working on his master’s degree, which is what it takes to become a nurse practitioner. Consider he graduated from high school at 18, the average age. You can get an LPN certificate in one year, or an associate degree in registered nursing in two years, this is true. But you would need two more years to get your bachelors degree in nursing. And a bachelors degree is required before you can apply and be accepted into a master’s program. And I’d sure like to know what subject he is reviewing and writing about for his masters thesis, which is a requirement for a masters degree in any subject. I know this because I am a registered nurse. If I knew more of what he was saying, I might be able to give you a few ideas for questions to ask that would put him on the spot. Nevertheless, as I stated at the beginning, he would have had to be a child genius, who graduated high school at the approximate age of 15 or 16 to be going for his nurse practitioner license. I would be curious to know what he says he made on his NCLEX exam to become a registered nurse to begin with. There are set numbers, a minimum and a maximum, in order to pass the test. And it is all done by computers now, so he would have had to pay a fee, make his appointment, and showed up at the testing site, completing the test within a set amount of time. The minimum score for passing the NCLEX to become an RN is 75…that means you did excellent, and the computer only asked you the least amount of questions to show you knew enough to qualify for your license. Sorry, don’t remember the max, because I made a 75, the best possible score. The higher the number, the harder someone had to work on the test to pass. You can always ask to see his NCLEX paperwork, which would show his score, but even more importantly, where’s his RN license? Every state requires them, and they generally have to be renewed every two years, although not every state is the same. However, the NCLEX test for nurses is nationwide. Now, he could be a certified nurses aide, which takes about six weeks training, or even a medication aide, which takes about 6 months to get. A medical assistant certificate, for someone who generally works for a doc’s office or a hospital, usually taking vital signs and has very limited skills in the medical field, can be received in about 9 months. Now as for medical school, he would first have to complete his bachelor degree, then apply and be accepted into a medical school, where he would spend a minimum of four more years…more if he were seeking a specialty such as neurology or orthopedics, for example. Let me know if I can help with any more info.
It is possible he is far along in the medical practice field at age 22.If indeed this is true then he will be having hands on experience now.You will be able to see that he is still in a medical school or training of some sort since this will take most of his time.I work in a medical clinic and know of a doctor in his twenties.You are right though to think its a bunch of bull because a doctor or someone that will be a doctor does not brag about his knowledge
In the medical field new information evolves on a constant basis. Because there are only 7 days a week and only 24 hours a day it has become a physical impossibility for even licensed practicing physicians to keep up with the the constant flow of new information. It is imperitive for everyone from the receptionist at intake, to the doctor in the operating room, to become as knowledgeable as possible. Only one seemingly insignificant fact may prove invaluable in diagnosing and treating the patient, and have the potential to save a life, or cause a death. While it can be downright annoying, and a humbling experience, to be constantly corrected– a professional focuses on the information being discussed not the messenger. If the information was conclusively false requesting help would not be necessary. With all due respect, you stated he is a kid, however you also stated he’s only 22, which you knew or should have known is factually incorrect/untrue before you put it in writing and hit the send button because a kid is under 18, and he is over 21 which makes him an adult in all 50 states. Perhaps it is these types of inconsistencies and factual errors which could cause a death in the medical field which he is compelled to call you to task on. Verifying his credentials is the responsibility of the person responsible for human resources/personnel. As is self evident, his credentials were already verified or he would not be working with you. In all probability he was hired by the same human resources person who hired you, and has the authority to fire you. By attempting to denigrate him, you are being insubordinate to the human resources person who hired him which is grounds for termination, and disqualifies you for unemployment insurance benefits as well as ruining your work history/reference and possibly the ability to obtain another position as most of them know one another. Additionally, attempting to slander or libel someone in the medical profession, whether or not they ultimately achieve their publicly stated goal of becoming a nurse practitioner, subjects you to civil prosecution and a money judgement against you for several thousand of dollars. No one with the level of knowledge and experience with nursing programs or medical school would spend their time or energy to help with a personal vendetta and risk their years of education, occupation, and income when they are busy studying, working hard, and helping sick patients who really need their help. The medical field is not an arena for his ego, nor your personal agenda.
Does he do this in a professional capacity? If so, there must be a supervisor you could talk with.
Most frauds blow their own cover, though, so I wouldn’t worry too much: watch for the fun yet to come.